Nathan Natas

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  My Mom Hopes I Die Before The Great Tribulation Comes

  by minimus in

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  she told me that yesterday and i just chuckled.. .

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  Nathan Natas

  As has already been said, you will, and so will everyone else, all of humanity will die before any imaginary event comes to pass.
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  Topics I’ve Been Pondering On

  by JWINQUESTION in

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  this is my first post on here so bear with me.

  currently i am still an active jw with serious questions about the jw org.

  i was hesitant signing up but really need as much input from the people on this forum to get a clear understanding on things.

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  JWINQUESTION reasoned, "Regarding the homosexuality issue, if it were okay then why can’t two people of the same sex produce a child?"

  By that reasoning, maybe a hetero couple ought to be producing a child every nine months?

  [Chorus sings "Every Sperm Is Sacred."]

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk
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  Divorcing my husband of 13 years...

  by 2pink in

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  my husband and i were both born ins.

  i left in 2009, and he followed me out a bit later.

  we were one of those couples who followed the script, married young and ended up having nothing in common other than the religion.

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  Hi 2Pink,

  First I am assuming that you are in the USA. If not, pay me no heed.

  I scanned the replies you have received so far, and maybe I missed it, but it seems no one has fixed on the fact that you are a stay-at-home mother with special needs children.

  Go ahead and get your divorce; you alone know your reasons and your limits. Once you are free of him, he can look to hook-up with those who think you should stay with him. Maybe they need a spin around the dance floor with him. It is bullshit to suggest that what you need is more time to get comfy in HELL. Leave!

  After the divorce, you *may* qualify for special government assistance as the caretaker of special needs children. If you do, TAKE IT! You can still continue to improve your resume - and there may well be gov't (local and/or federal) programs to help you with that.

  If Mr.2pink fails to meet his support obligations and becomes a dead-beat-dad, he may find incarceration helpful in overcoming his substance dependancies.

  I wish you luck; the Watchtower sees too it that their youth are as ill-prepared to deal with the world as possible, because IF they were successful, they might see that they DON'T NEED the Watchtower.
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  Would you go to church?

  by Coded Logic in

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  2. beliefs

  i have an unspoken rule that if someone ever invites me to a church - that i haven't been to before - i will go.

  even though i'm an atheist i'm still interested in the experiance.

  just like i'm not into basketball but i would like to go to a game sometime to feel the energy of the crowd.. growing up as a jw i've never set foot in another church.

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  Nathan Natas

  Why should I go to church??

  Maybe you were playing baseball and the ball went over the fence into their yard and you want your ball back.
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  Would you go to church?

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have an unspoken rule that if someone ever invites me to a church - that i haven't been to before - i will go.

  even though i'm an atheist i'm still interested in the experiance.

  just like i'm not into basketball but i would like to go to a game sometime to feel the energy of the crowd.. growing up as a jw i've never set foot in another church.

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  Nathan Natas

  I went to a church a couple of days ago.

  I have a neighbor with low vision (legally blind) who wanted to attend the funeral of a friend of hers who had died. She was at a loss about how she would get there, so I volunteered to provide transportation and protective detail.

  The funeral mass was held in a Roman Catholic Church. No big deal; I was born Roman Catholic and baptized RC before I even knew my name. My plan was to dress "business casual" and to not participate in the ceremonies, recitations, etc. All in all it was a boring - very boring - three hours, but my "mission" was just to get my friend there and back with minimum stress for her.

  Before the Mass itself started there was the recitation of the Rosary. Booooorrrrriiiinnnggggg! I was unable to keep my eyes open toward the end - the chanting, over and over and over, with The Lord's Prayer in between chants! Seriously, it seemed they recited the Lord's Prayer 12 times. Jesus wept! I am sure I was actually asleep for the last couple of minutes.

  Then a brief break.

  Then the Mass. "Blah blah, blah, stand up, sit down, stand up, kneel ( I sat), stand up, sit down, stand up, kneel ( I sat) stand up, sit down. I think this exercise program was designed by Jack LaLane! Then get in line to receive communion, or, if your from another tradition but would like a blessing, just cross your arms over your chest when you approach the altar and you'll be blessed by the Priest without the offer of wine and wafer.

  The most moving thing, to me, was the eulogy for the deceased offered by her son. From what he said I realized that some people really do have good and loving mothers. She was one.

  Finally it was over. I approached the son who gave the eulogy and told him he did a great job.

  Conclusion: I'm not "church material" but I am willing to fulfill a promise made to a neighbor, just as any good atheist would do.

  There were a few things that were different from what I remember of 57 years ago: the church I went to as a child was a traditional RC church; this one was a modern RC church, built in 1985, with a scarcity of statues, staines glass that was abstract, illustrating nothing, and GIRLS as "Altarboys"and WOMEN conducting the Rosary! Petras was a rolling stone!

  ...

  A few years ago I attended the Greek festival sponsored by the local Greek Orthodox Church, and I took the Church tour. Lots of iconography and statues in that strange fake Greek Orthodox Icon perspective. A bit more interesting, and the food was GREAT! Lamb, Calamari, Spanikopita, Retsina, OPA! The food is always good at church festivals. If you are curious about a church, attend a festival and drink wine until the feeling passes.
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  9yr old girl kills her gun instructor with an uzi

  by EndofMysteries in

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  http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

  "a 9-year-old girl learning to fire a submachine gun accidentally killed her instructor at a shooting range when the weapon recoiled over her shoulder, according to arizona authorities.

  another reason to go against those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.

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  EndofMysteries, you seem very well informed. </sarcasm off>

  NAME some of those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.

  Please provide proof for your straw man argument.
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  They came swiftly and left like a speeding bullet, JW.ORG

  by jam in

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  i was in the den when the old lady yell, "your friends are here".. at the door stood a jw.

  hi sir (no good morning sir) we have a web site,.

  jw.org in different languages.

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  Nathan Natas

  Two thoughts:

  "They came swiftly and left like a speeding bullet," they say it helps if you think about baseball.

  Remember the BOOK "Qualified th be Ministers"?

  I suppose it is now a one-sided tract.

  If you can get from one door to the other without pissing your pants, you're QUALIFIED, Bro!
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  ELDER LIES AND GET'S PRAISED FOR IT! FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME!

  by BucketShopBill in

  1. watchtower
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  want to know how a lie can turn into a compliment?

  only in the jw mindset!!!.

  we got called into the dreaded back room after meeting to find two elders wanting to discuss a 'serious' matter with us.

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  Nathan Natas

  LisaRose, that is EXCELLENT! BRILLIANT!
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  Whoooooooooo hoooooooooooooooo eeeeeeeeeee!!!

  by beksbks in

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  that is all.

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  Nathan Natas

  Five years ago! And how's that working out for y'all?
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  ELDER LIES AND GET'S PRAISED FOR IT! FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME!

  by BucketShopBill in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  want to know how a lie can turn into a compliment?

  only in the jw mindset!!!.

  we got called into the dreaded back room after meeting to find two elders wanting to discuss a 'serious' matter with us.

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  Nathan Natas

  BSB, you might want to "return the favor" by pointing out that Elder Helpful *might* be pleasuring himself orally since his anatomy puts him in the proximity of such a practice. If he denies it, suggest that maybe he has transvestites give him a hand in that area. After all, it is a possibility, and you're just being diligent in looking out for his spiritual health.

  Or you could just punch the lying sack of crap in his 'nads. The deep beathing thus stimulated will increase the oxygenation of his peripheral tissues, much to his benefit.